מעתיקה שרשור בפורום אוטיזם על DHA ואומגה 3

מעתיקה שרשור בפורום אוטיזם על DHA ואומגה 3

I am confused by this. I thought our kids were typically deficient in vitamin A and supplementation of CLO was recommended for the specific purpose of gaining natural source vitamin A (DHA just being a bonus). --- In [email protected], JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS <JMcCandless@...> wrote: > > Please see recent notices by the Vitamin D Council against the use of CLO - evidence is accruing that giving our kids CLO may be giving them too much A, which opposes D, and reports indicate most American children have plenty of or even 5% have toxic levels of A and are deficient in D. Even Nordic Naturals, known to be an excellent company, has been noted to have far too much A and not enough D in their CLO - I have written them about this and I believe they are looking into it. > There is no soy protein in their oils and I doubt if anyone can get too much - most kids are deficient especially in DHA. Dr. JM > > --- On Tue, 1/6/09, laura19982005 <laura19982005@...> wrote: > > From: laura19982005 <laura19982005@...> > Subject: [Autism_LDN] Re: Re Omega 3s > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:04 AM > > > > > > > I am interested in this supplement for my son, he takes CLO, but can > he take this in addition to CLO? I also would like to know if it is > well tolerated by children with allergies/intoleran ces to soy. > > thanks in advance. > > --- In Autism_LDN@yahoogro ups.com, JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS > <JMcCandless@ ...> wrote: > > > > I use Nordic Naturals ProDHA (strawberry smell), 225mg per small > gel cap. I think the fish are superior to plant sources. Dr. JM> wrote: > > > > Hi Dr MacCandless, > > Do you have a good source of just DHA to recommend? I used to use > > Algae DHA, but I found out it is chemically processed with hexane. > > Thank-you, > > Viviana > > > > --- In Autism_LDN@yahoogro ups.com, JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS > > <JMcCandless@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Mary: Most of the neurological benefit of the Omegas comes from > > DHA, but usually there is more EPA in the combinations as it is > > cheaper than DHA and smells less strong; ratio is often 1:1. DHA > > benefits go far beyond just promotion of optimal neuronal function > > and reduction of inflammation (which is very connected to > > depression). Omegas and especially DHA also support healthy levels > > of neurotransmitters and increase the density of dendrites which > > helps learning as well as mood. Studies show that DHA even reduces > > impulsive and aggressive behavior in children. Many experts > suggest > > 650 - 1000mg a day for healthy adults of combined EPA-DHA, and if > > there are mood issues, I usually suggest another 1000mg a day of > > stand-alone DHA. For children on the spectrum, most of whom in my > > opinion have already suffered mitochondrial damage which I would > like > > to help reverse, I suggest between 250mg DHA twice daily for > smaller > > kids and 450-900mg of DHA twice > > > daily for kids over 10, with somewhat less EPA. > > > > > > DHA has been one of the best nutrients ever for my granddaughter > > Chelsey, now 14, who takes 675-900mg twice daily. Dr. JM > > > Subject: [Autism_LDN] Re Omega 3s > > > To: "Autism_LDN@ yahoogro ups.com" <Autism_LDN@ yahoogro ups.com> > > > Dr McCandles, am listening to your recent DAN talk - in it you > > suggest > > > amounts re Omega 3s, can you please restate what you suggest - > this > > is for a > > > 14 year old, how much DHA< EPA and total amounts am and pm - > think > > we maybe > > > way under using this product etc Back to topRe: Re Omega 3s ) better memory (recall) and motor processing, specifically. ----- Original Message ----- From: laura19982005 To: [email protected] Sent: 01/07/2009 5:38 AM Subject: [Autism_LDN] Re: Re Omega 3s Do you mind stating what types of improvements? thanks so much. --- In [email protected], "Cameron Flanagan" <thecameron@...> wrote: > > we have been using this with our son for over 2 years and have seen a lot of improvement. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS > To: [email protected] > Sent: 01/05/2009 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Autism_LDN] Re: Re Omega 3s > > > I use Nordic Naturals ProDHA (strawberry smell), 225mg per small gel cap. I think the fish are superior to plant sources. Dr. JM: > שאלה > Hi Dr MacCandless, > Do you have a good source of just DHA to recommend? I used to use > Algae DHA, but I found out it is chemically processed with hexane. > Thank-you, > Viviana > > --- In Autism_LDN@yahoogro ups.com, JAQUELYN MCCANDLESS > <JMcCandless@ ...> wrote: > > > > Mary: Most of the neurological benefit of the Omegas comes from > DHA, but usually there is more EPA in the combinations as it is > cheaper than DHA and smells less strong; ratio is often 1:1. DHA > benefits go far beyond just promotion of optimal neuronal function > and reduction of inflammation (which is very connected to > depression). Omegas and especially DHA also support healthy levels > of neurotransmitters and increase the density of dendrites which > helps learning as well as mood. Studies show that DHA even reduces > impulsive and aggressive behavior in children. Many experts suggest > 650 - 1000mg a day for healthy adults of combined EPA-DHA, and if > there are mood issues, I usually suggest another 1000mg a day of > stand-alone DHA. For children on the spectrum, most of whom in my > opinion have already suffered mitochondrial damage which I would like > to help reverse, I suggest between 250mg DHA twice daily for smaller > kids and 450-900mg of DHA twice > > daily for kids over 10, with somewhat less EPA. > > > > DHA has been one of the best nutrients ever for my granddaughter > Chelsey, now 14, who takes 675-900mg twice daily. Dr. JM שאלה- שמחקתי את השואלת > > Dr McCandles, am listening to your recent DAN talk - in it you > suggest > > amounts re Omega 3s, can you please restate what you suggest - this > is for a > > 14 year old, how much DHA< EPA and total amounts am and pm - think > we maybe > > way under using this product etc כך ששימו לב שיש ילדים שתגבור DHA עוזר להם משמעותית. זאת למרות ההערות של גיא בן צבי בפורום זה.
 

JacobSk

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תלמה על זה אני כתבתי פה מספר פעמים

אין אף רופים DAN! שממליצים על שמן דגים או השלמה של EPA על DHA כי לילדים שלנו מאוד חשוב פרופרציה עם יתר של DHA וגם ויטמין A טבי מאוד חשוב לכן CLO מוצר מאולה שאונה לכל הדרישות. תודה לך על השירשור הזה
 

razgalili

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אתה בטוח לגבי זה?

רופאי הDAN שעבדנו איתם בעבר כולם עד האחרון שבהם המליצו על שמן דגים. אם ההמלצות השתנו זה קרה ממש בזמן האחרון. כולם גם המליצו על CLO וטענו שיש צורך בויטמין A. אני אשמח לראות קישורים להמלצות שונות מאלו.
 

JacobSk

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בבוסתון ב2005 היה קנס DAN!

וזה דברים ממצגת של דר קרצינל הוא כידוע אחד מהגדולים DANים שם של המצגת The Role of Nutrients in Autism אלה היו זמנים טובים שרופאים פרסצו חובשי פרוטוקולים שלהם שהשתנה לפי דעתי בסיבות כלכליות בקנסים הבעים. עז הינה דברים שלו בקשר לחומצות שומן אומגה 3 vi. EFA deficiency: Just about all the children will require Omega 3 fatty acids. We recommend starting with the RDA of vitamin A. Usually this is Y2 tsp of cod liver oil for children ages 2-5, I tsp for children who are older. A blood test, called an Essential Fatty Acid Profile will reveal other possible fatty acid deficits that can be supplemented. Some children react poorly to cod liver oil and can get very hyper and aggressive. This will resolve one to two days after discontinuing. Also recommended are EP A ( eicosapentaenoic acid) and DHA ( docosahexaenoic acid). Great sources of these can be found in Eskimo 3oil. ובנוסף דברים שלו על הספקה חומצות אומגה באופן כללי Fatty acids: omega 3, and omega 6 are usually needed. The omega 3 fatty acids are supplied by Cod Liver Oil, DHAjr., and flax oil, Eskimo 3, and Coromega. Omega 3's are also supplied by using high oleic saffiower oil as cooking oil. Omega 6' s are also needed in some children. A blood test, called the fatty acid profile, will reveal individual deficits and excesses. לכן הוא ממליץ לCLO כמקור הכי טוב ומומלץ לילדים בספקטר ולעבור לשמן דגים רגיל רק במיקרה שיש בעיה עם CLO לילדים ספציפים.כמובן שהוא ממליץ על בדיקת דם שלבחור טוסף הכי מעטיים אבל בככלי הוא ממליץ על CLO! ומנוסה ספציפי עז לא היו חלוקי דעות ו גם שירשור שתלמה פרסמה עוד מצדיק את המילים שלו. אני מציע לכולם לקרוא את המעמר הזה עם המלצות לפרוטוקול בסיסי לילד בספקטר http://www.littlecanaries.org/nutrients.htm
 

razgalili

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הי יעקב

אני לא רואה במאמר הספציפי הזה שהוא כותב שיש עדיפות של CLO על שמן דגים מעבר לכך שבCLO יש גם ויטמין A וD. אין אצלו התיחסות ליחסים בין EPA וDHA. האם הוא דיבר יותר על היחסים השונים במאמר אחר?
 

JacobSk

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הי רז

דר קרצינל ממאמר שלו ממליץ על מקורות אומגה 3 ובמקומות הראשנים הוא מכניס CLO וDHA JR כמקורות הכי טובים ל אומגה 3 .אתה צודק הוא לא מפרת סיבות לבחירה שלו , אבל לא כדי לשכועח שמאמר הזה נוגעה בהרבה תחומים של DAN! ומאוד יכול להיות ולא רצה להרכיב את הנוסה לצורך לא להגדיל יוטר מידי את המעמר שלו. אבל עדיפויות שלו לטובת CLO DHA JR די ברורות.
 
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