๐Ÿ†•ื”ืฉื‘ื•ืข ืฉื™ื”ื™ื” - 10-16/01/2021๐Ÿ“บ

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Lhuna3

Well-known member
ืื™ื–ื” ื›ื™ืฃ ืฉื ื”ื ื™ืช, ื”ื•ื ื‘ืืžืช ืกืจื˜ ืžืฆื—ื™ืง ื•ื™ืคื” (ืงื ืช' ื‘ืจืื ื” ื‘ื™ื™ื)

ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืืช ืชืžืฉื™ื›ื™ ืœืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” 1 ืื• ืœื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1?
ืจืื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืืชืžื•ืœ ืืช ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” 1.
ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“, ื”ืืžืช ืฉืžืฉืœื‘ ืžืกื•ื™ื ื‘ืืžืฆืข ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœื”ืจื™ืฅ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื—ืœืงื™ื ื‘ืคืกื˜ ืคื•ืจื•ื•ืจื“ ื›ื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืงืจื‘ื•ืช ื•ื”ืžืจื“ืคื™ื ืžืฉืขืžืžื™ื ืื•ืชื™. ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืจืง ืืช (ืกืคื•ื™ืœืจ) ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืกืจื˜, ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืชืขื•ืจืจ ื‘ืขืชื™ื“/ื”ื•ื•ื”.
ื”ื™ื•ื ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื›ื•ื•ื ื•ืช ืœืฆืคื•ืช ื‘ื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1.
 

Lhuna3

Well-known member
ืื ื›ื‘ืจ ืืช ืžืชื›ื ื ืช ืฆืคื™ื™ื” ืฉืœ ืžืืจื•ื•ืœ ืื– ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœืฆื™ื™ืŸ ื’ื ืืช ื“ื“ืคื•ืœ 1 ื•2
ืื•ืžื ื ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืœื ืฉื™ื™ื›ื™ื ืœืขื•ืœื ืฉืœ ืžืืจื•ื•ืœ ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื•ืช ื•ื”ื•ื›ืจื– ื›ื™ ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ืฉืœื™ืฉื™ ื™ื”ื™ื” ื—ืœืง ืžื”ื™ืงื•ื ื•ืžืื•ื“ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืฉื™ืžืฆืื• ื“ืจืš ืžืงื•ืจื™ืช ื•ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ื” ืœื”ื›ื ื™ืก ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ืœืขื•ืœื ื”ื–ื”

ื•ื‘ืœื™ ืงืฉืจ ื”ื ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื•ื’ื ื›ื™ ืจืื™ื™ืŸ ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืœื“ืก
ืชืจืื™, ื–ื” ืœื ืฉืคืชืื•ื ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœืื”ื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ื–'ืื ืจ (ืœืจืื™ื” ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ 1 ื•ืืช ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” 1). ืื ื™ ืจืง ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘"ืกื“ืจื”" ื”ื–ืืช ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืžืฆื•ืžืฆืžื™ื ื•ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ื™ื ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ืœื™ ื›ืŸ ืื•ื”ื‘, ื•ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืžืงื ืื” ื‘"ื—ื’ื™ื’ื•ืช" ืคื” ื›ืฉื™ื•ืฆื ืžืฉื”ื• ื—ื“ืฉ, ืื– ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืชืงื•ื•ื” ืงื˜ื ื” ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืœื ืกื•ืช ืœื”ื™ื ื•ืช ืื™ืชื›ื ืคื” ืžื–ื”, ืื– ืื ื™ ืขื•ืฉื” ืžืืžืฅ ืžืกื•ื™ื™ื.
ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ืืžื”ืจ ืœืฆืคื•ืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืœื ื”ื›ืจื—ื™ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื”ืขืœื™ืœื” ื”ืžืชืžืฉื›ืช (ืืœื ืื ื™ื’ื™ื“ื• ืœื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘ื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื•ืฉื•ื ื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืกื™ื›ื•ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœืื”ื•ื‘).
 

nerdkey treky

Active member
ืื ื›ื‘ืจ ืืช ืžืชื›ื ื ืช ืฆืคื™ื™ื” ืฉืœ ืžืืจื•ื•ืœ ืื– ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœืฆื™ื™ืŸ ื’ื ืืช ื“ื“ืคื•ืœ 1 ื•2
ืื•ืžื ื ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืœื ืฉื™ื™ื›ื™ื ืœืขื•ืœื ืฉืœ ืžืืจื•ื•ืœ ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื•ืช ื•ื”ื•ื›ืจื– ื›ื™ ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ืฉืœื™ืฉื™ ื™ื”ื™ื” ื—ืœืง ืžื”ื™ืงื•ื ื•ืžืื•ื“ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืฉื™ืžืฆืื• ื“ืจืš ืžืงื•ืจื™ืช ื•ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ื” ืœื”ื›ื ื™ืก ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ืœืขื•ืœื ื”ื–ื”

ื•ื‘ืœื™ ืงืฉืจ ื”ื ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื•ื’ื ื›ื™ ืจืื™ื™ืŸ ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืœื“ืก
ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืžืฆื™ื™ืŸ ืืช ืกืจื˜ื™ ื“ื“ืคื•ืœ ื›ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืฉืจืฆื•ื™ ืœื ืœืจืื•ืช, ืื™ื ืคื ื˜ื™ืœื™ื ื‘ืจืžื•ืช ื•ื“ื™ ื—ื‘ืœ ืฉืžื›ื ื™ืกื™ื ืื•ืชื• ืœื™ืงื•ื ืฉืœ ืžืืจื•ื•ืœ. ื•ื’ื ื›ื™ ืจืื™ื™ืŸ ืจื™ื™ื ื•ืœื“ืก ื ืžืฆื ืฉื ื–ื” ืžื™ื ื•ืก
 

didalf

Well-known member
ืจืื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ืืชืžื•ืœ ืืช ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” 1.
ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“, ื”ืืžืช ืฉืžืฉืœื‘ ืžืกื•ื™ื ื‘ืืžืฆืข ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœื”ืจื™ืฅ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื—ืœืงื™ื ื‘ืคืกื˜ ืคื•ืจื•ื•ืจื“ ื›ื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืงืจื‘ื•ืช ื•ื”ืžืจื“ืคื™ื ืžืฉืขืžืžื™ื ืื•ืชื™. ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืจืง ืืช (ืกืคื•ื™ืœืจ) ืกื•ืฃ ื”ืกืจื˜, ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืชืขื•ืจืจ ื‘ืขืชื™ื“/ื”ื•ื•ื”.
ื”ื™ื•ื ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ื›ื•ื•ื ื•ืช ืœืฆืคื•ืช ื‘ื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1.
ืชืจืื™, ื–ื” ืœื ืฉืคืชืื•ื ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœืื”ื•ื‘ ืืช ื”ื–'ืื ืจ (ืœืจืื™ื” ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ 1 ื•ืืช ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” 1). ืื ื™ ืจืง ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘"ืกื“ืจื”" ื”ื–ืืช ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืžืฆื•ืžืฆืžื™ื ื•ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ื™ื ืฉืื ื™ ืื•ืœื™ ื›ืŸ ืื•ื”ื‘, ื•ื›ื™ ืื ื™ ืžืงื ืื” ื‘"ื—ื’ื™ื’ื•ืช" ืคื” ื›ืฉื™ื•ืฆื ืžืฉื”ื• ื—ื“ืฉ, ืื– ื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืชืงื•ื•ื” ืงื˜ื ื” ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืœื ืกื•ืช ืœื”ื™ื ื•ืช ืื™ืชื›ื ืคื” ืžื–ื”, ืื– ืื ื™ ืขื•ืฉื” ืžืืžืฅ ืžืกื•ื™ื™ื.
ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืœื ืืžื”ืจ ืœืฆืคื•ืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉืœื ื”ื›ืจื—ื™ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ื”ืขืœื™ืœื” ื”ืžืชืžืฉื›ืช (ืืœื ืื ื™ื’ื™ื“ื• ืœื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘ื• ืžืฉื”ื• ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื•ืฉื•ื ื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื™ ืกื™ื›ื•ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœืื”ื•ื‘).
ืฉืฉืฉ ืชืคืกื™ืงื• ืœื”ืœื—ื™ืฅ ืœื™ ืืช ืœื•ื ื”!! ืขื–ื‘ื™ ืื•ืชืš ืžื“ื“ืคื•ืœ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ืžืชื™ืฉื”ื• ืชืฉืื‘ื™ ืœื–ื” ืžืกืคื™ืง ื ื“ื‘ืจ ื’ื ืขืœ ื”ืืงืกืžืŸ, ืœื ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื›ืจื’ืข.

ื•ืื ื™ ื’ื ืœื ื›ื› ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื‘ืฆืคื™ื™ื” ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื“ื™ ืžืฉืขืžื. ื‘ืฆืคื™ื•ืช ื—ื•ื–ืจื•ืช ื›ื‘ืจ ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ื•ื”ืขืจื›ืชื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื›ื›ืœ ืฉื’ื ื”ืงืจืืฉ ืฉืœื™ ืขืœ ืกื˜ื™ื‘ ื•ื‘ืืงื™ ื’ื“ืœ.

ื•ืชื–ื›ืจื™ ืฉื’ื ืืช ื”ืขื•ื ื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ืืคื™ ืœื ืื”ื‘ืช;-) (ื•ื’ื ืคืืจืงืก, ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื”100!)
 

ื˜ื•ื ื™ ื”ื—ืชื•ืœ

Well-known member
ืžื ื”ืœ
ื•ืชื–ื›ืจื™ ืฉื’ื ืืช ื”ืขื•ื ื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ืืคื™ ืœื ืื”ื‘ืช;-) (ื•ื’ื ืคืืจืงืก, ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื”100!)
ื ื›ื•ืŸ ื ื›ื•ืŸ ื•ื ื›ื•ืŸ
ืœื ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื›ืš ืฉืื ื™ ืœืขื“ ืื–ื›ื•ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ืขืจืš ื›ืชื‘ื” ืžื›ืชื‘ ื ืืฆื” ืขืœ ื”ืกื“ืจื” ื”ืžืชื™ื ื”ืžื”ืœื›ื™ื ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืžื” ืคืจืงื™ื ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื ื•ืื– ืฉื‘ื•ืข ืœืื—ืจ ืžื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืื•ื”ื‘ืช ื‘ืกื“ืจื”.

ื•ืื ื™ ืชื•ื”ื” ืื @Lhuna3 ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืขืœ ื”ืงืฉืจ ื”ื‘ืืคื™ืกื˜ื™ - ืฉื’'ื•ืก ื•ื•ื™ื“ื•ืŸ ื‘ื™ื™ื ืืช ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1 ื•2
 

Lhuna3

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ืฉืฉืฉ ืชืคืกื™ืงื• ืœื”ืœื—ื™ืฅ ืœื™ ืืช ืœื•ื ื”!! ืขื–ื‘ื™ ืื•ืชืš ืžื“ื“ืคื•ืœ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ืžืชื™ืฉื”ื• ืชืฉืื‘ื™ ืœื–ื” ืžืกืคื™ืง ื ื“ื‘ืจ ื’ื ืขืœ ื”ืืงืกืžืŸ, ืœื ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ื›ืจื’ืข.

ื•ืื ื™ ื’ื ืœื ื›ื› ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื‘ืฆืคื™ื™ื” ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื“ื™ ืžืฉืขืžื. ื‘ืฆืคื™ื•ืช ื—ื•ื–ืจื•ืช ื›ื‘ืจ ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ื•ื”ืขืจื›ืชื™ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื›ื›ืœ ืฉื’ื ื”ืงืจืืฉ ืฉืœื™ ืขืœ ืกื˜ื™ื‘ ื•ื‘ืืงื™ ื’ื“ืœ.

ื•ืชื–ื›ืจื™ ืฉื’ื ืืช ื”ืขื•ื ื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ื‘ืืคื™ ืœื ืื”ื‘ืช;-) (ื•ื’ื ืคืืจืงืก, ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ื”100!)
ื ื›ื•ืŸ ื ื›ื•ืŸ ื•ื ื›ื•ืŸ
ืœื ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื›ืš ืฉืื ื™ ืœืขื“ ืื–ื›ื•ืจ ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ืขืจืš ื›ืชื‘ื” ืžื›ืชื‘ ื ืืฆื” ืขืœ ื”ืกื“ืจื” ื”ืžืชื™ื ื”ืžื”ืœื›ื™ื ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืžื” ืคืจืงื™ื ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื ื•ืื– ืฉื‘ื•ืข ืœืื—ืจ ืžื›ืŸ ื”ื™ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžืื•ื”ื‘ืช ื‘ืกื“ืจื”.

ื•ืื ื™ ืชื•ื”ื” ืื @Lhuna3 ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืขืœ ื”ืงืฉืจ ื”ื‘ืืคื™ืกื˜ื™ - ืฉื’'ื•ืก ื•ื•ื™ื“ื•ืŸ ื‘ื™ื™ื ืืช ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1 ื•2
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ื‘ืกื“ืจ, ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื—ื™ื™ื‘ืช ืœื”ื ืžื™ืš ืœื›ื ืืช ื”ืฆื™ืคื™ื•ืช ืžืžื ื™, ื›ื™ ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ืืช ื–'ืื ืจ ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ ื”ืขืœ ื ื™ืกื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื›ืžื” ืคืขืžื™ื ื‘ืขื‘ืจ.
ืื ื™ ืœื ืจื•ืื” ื”ืจื‘ื” ืกื™ื›ื•ื™ ืฉืคืชืื•ื ืื ื™ ืืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื”ืชืœื”ื‘ ืžื”ื.
ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช ื ื•ืชื ืช ืœื–ื” ืฆ'ืื ืก ื›ืžื• ืฉืืชื ืจื•ืื™ื. ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืื•ืœื™ ื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื™ ื”ืกื™ืคื•ืง ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช (ืกืคื•ื™ืœืจ ืœืื—ื“ ืžืกืจื˜ื™ ืžืืจื•ื•ืœ ื”ืžืื•ื—ืจื™ื) ืช'ืื ื•ืก ืžืขืœื™ื ืืช ื—ืฆื™ ืžื”ืื ื•ืฉื•ืช :love: (ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ื”ืกืคื•ื™ืœืจ ื”ื™ื—ื™ื“ ืฉืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื– ืœื ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืœื™ ืขื•ื“ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื).
ื•ื›ืŸ ืื ื™ ืจืื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื›ืฉื”ื•ืจื“ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1 ืฉื’'ื•ืก ื•ื•ื™ื“ื•ืŸ ื‘ื™ื™ื ืืช ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืืชื” ืžืขืœื” ืœื™ ืฆื™ืคื™ื•ืช, ื”ืžื˜ืจื” ื›ืจื’ืข ื–ื” ืœื”ื ืžื™ืš!
 

didalf

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ื˜ื•ื ื™ ื”ื—ืชื•ืœ

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ืžื ื”ืœ
ื•ื›ืŸ ืื ื™ ืจืื™ืชื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื›ืฉื”ื•ืจื“ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1 ืฉื’'ื•ืก ื•ื•ื™ื“ื•ืŸ ื‘ื™ื™ื ืืช ื–ื”. ืื‘ืœ ืžื” ืืชื” ืžืขืœื” ืœื™ ืฆื™ืคื™ื•ืช, ื”ืžื˜ืจื” ื›ืจื’ืข ื–ื” ืœื”ื ืžื™ืš!
ืื ื–ื” ืขื•ื–ืจ ืื– ื™ื™ืชื›ืŸ ืžืื•ื“ ืฉื”ื”ืชืœื”ื‘ื•ืช ืžื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืžื•ื’ื–ืžืช ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉื”ื‘ื™ื ืœื—ื™ื™ื ืืช ื”ืงื•ื ืกืคื˜ ืฉืœ ื™ืงื•ื ืžืฉื•ืชืฃ ื•ืชื›ืœืก ื”ืจื‘ื” ืฆื™ืคื• ืฉื–ื” ืœื ื™ืขื‘ื•ื“ ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ.

ืื‘ืœ ืื ื›ื‘ืจ ื’'ื•ืก ื•ื•ื™ื“ื•ืŸ ื•ืกืจื˜ื™ื - ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืฉื ื” ืฉื™ืฆื ื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1 ื™ืฆื ื’ื ืกืจื˜ ืื—ืจ ืฉืœ ื’'ื•ืก The Cabin in the Woods (ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ืฆื•ืœื ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื ืชื™ื™ื ืžื•ืงื“ื ื™ื•ืชืจ)
ื•ื–ื” ืกืจื˜ ืžืžืฉ ื˜ื•ื‘. ื”ื•ื ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืกืจื˜ ืื™ืžื” ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื˜ื•ื•ื™ืกื˜, ืœื ืคืืจื•ื“ื™ื” ืื‘ืœ ืžืื•ื“ ืžืฆื—ื™ืง.
ื”ืืžืช ืฉืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืžืžืฉ ื’ืจืžืชื™ ืœืขืฆืžื™ ืœืจืฆื•ืช ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”
 

Lhuna3

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ืžืชื” ืขืœ ื–ื” ืฉืขืฉื™ืช ืขืœ ื–ื” ืกืžื™ื™ืœื™ ืžืื•ื”ื‘ ื™ืกื•ืฆื™ื•ืคื˜ื™ืช:-D
ืื ื™ ืกื•ืฆื™ื•ืคืื˜ื™ืช :-D ื–ื” ื›ื–ื” ืžืฆื—ื™ืง ืœืงืจื•ื ืื•ืชืš ื•ืื– ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช
ืœื•ืงื™ ืื”ื•ื‘ืš ืžื•ืฆื™ื ืœื‘ื ืื“ื ืขื™ืŸ ื•ืื– ืžืฉื—ืจืจ ืฆื‘ื ืฉืœ ื—ื™ื™ื–ืจื™ื ืจืฆื—ื ื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื ื™ื• ื™ื•ืจืง ื‘ืžื˜ืจื” ืœื”ืคื•ืš ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืžื™ืŸ ื”ืื ื•ืฉื™ ืœืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืฉืœื• :-D:-D:-D:-D
ื–ื” ืฉื–ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ืฉื”ืชืื”ื‘ืช ื‘ื” ืžื›ื•ืœื... ื–ื” ืžื–ื›ื™ืจ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ื•ื™ื›ื•ื—ื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ืขืœ ืžื™ืงื™ ื‘ืฉื™ื™ืžืœืก - ื–ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืœื™ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืžื™ ื”ื˜ื™ืคื•ืก ืฉืœืš!

ื˜ื•ื‘, ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ืืคืฉืจ ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื™ืคื•ืจ.
ื”ื—ืœืง ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืœื• ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืžืฉืขืžื, ืื‘ืœ ืžื”ืจื’ืข ืฉืช'ื•ืจ ื”ื•ืคื™ืข ื•ื—ื•ื˜ืฃ ืœื”ื ืืช ืœื•ืงื™ ื–ื” ื”ืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืงืฆืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืฉืขืฉืข.
ื•ืื– ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ ื—ื•ื˜ืฃ ืืช ืช'ื•ืจ ื‘ื—ื–ืจื” ื•ืฉื ื™ ื”ืื™ื“ื™ื•ื˜ื™ื ื ืœื—ืžื™ื ืื—ื“ ื‘ืฉื ื™.
(ื•ืื– ื’ื ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” ืžื’ื™ืข ืœื”ืคืจื™ื“ ื•ืื– 3 ืื™ื“ื™ื•ื˜ื™ื ืขื ืื•ืชื” ืžื˜ืจื” ื ืœื—ืžื™ื ืื—ื“ ื‘ืฉื ื™.)

- ืชื–ื”ืจื• ืื™ืš ืฉืืชื ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ืœื•ืงื™, ื”ื•ื ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืื— ืฉืœื™.
- ื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ 80 ืื™ืฉ ื‘ื™ื•ืžื™ื™ื.
- ื”ื•ื ืžืื•ืžืฅ.
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ื•ืื ื™ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืžื—ื‘ื‘ืช ืืช ื‘ืื ืจ. ืื•ืœื™ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงืฆืช ื ื”ื ื™ื™ืช ืžื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืฉืœ ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ื”ืžืฉืขืžืžื™ื ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ืฉืœ ื”ืงืคื˜ืŸ ื•ืฉืœ ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ (ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœื ืกื•ืช.)
ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ ื”ื™ื” ืงืฆืช ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืฆื—ื™ืง ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื”.
ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืœื™ ืกืคืง ืช'ื•ืจ ื”ื•ื ื”ื›ื™ ื—ืžื•ื“.

ื•ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื” ื™ืฉ ื’ื ืื™ืฉื” ืื—ืช ื‘ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืœื ืคืื˜ืชื™.

ื•ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืงืจื‘ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื–ื”, ื ืจืื” ืฉืžื” ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื’ืžืจ ืื•ืชื ื–ื” ื”ืฉื•ื•ืืจืžื” :-D
 

didalf

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ืžืจื’ื™ืฉ ื›ื› ืžื•ื–ืจ ืœืกืžืŸ ืกืคื•ื™ืœืจ ืขืœ ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื”, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืื–ืจื•ื ืื™ืชืš.
ืื ื™ ืกื•ืฆื™ื•ืคืื˜ื™ืช :-D ื–ื” ื›ื–ื” ืžืฆื—ื™ืง ืœืงืจื•ื ืื•ืชืš ื•ืื– ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช
ืœื•ืงื™ ืื”ื•ื‘ืš ืžื•ืฆื™ื ืœื‘ื ืื“ื ืขื™ืŸ ื•ืื– ืžืฉื—ืจืจ ืฆื‘ื ืฉืœ ื—ื™ื™ื–ืจื™ื ืจืฆื—ื ื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื ื™ื• ื™ื•ืจืง ื‘ืžื˜ืจื” ืœื”ืคื•ืš ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืžื™ืŸ ื”ืื ื•ืฉื™ ืœืขื‘ื“ื™ื ืฉืœื• :-D:-D:-D:-D
ื–ื” ืฉื–ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ืฉื”ืชืื”ื‘ืช ื‘ื” ืžื›ื•ืœื... ื–ื” ืžื–ื›ื™ืจ ืœื™ ืืช ื”ื•ื™ื›ื•ื—ื™ื ืฉืœื ื• ืขืœ ืžื™ืงื™ ื‘ืฉื™ื™ืžืœืก - ื–ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืœื™ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืžื™ ื”ื˜ื™ืคื•ืก ืฉืœืš!
ื“ื”|ืžืื•ื”ื‘|:-D ืชืžื™ื“ ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืืช ื”ื‘ืื“ ื’ืื™ื™ ืžื” ื—ื“ืฉ.
ื—ื•ืœื” ืขืœ ืœื•ืงื™ ืฉืœ ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ื‘ืคื•ืœ ืกื™ื™ืงื• ืžื•ื“|ืžืื•ื”ื‘|
- ืชื–ื”ืจื• ืื™ืš ืฉืืชื ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ืœื•ืงื™, ื”ื•ื ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืื— ืฉืœื™.
- ื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ 80 ืื™ืฉ ื‘ื™ื•ืžื™ื™ื.
- ื”ื•ื ืžืื•ืžืฅ.
ื—ื—ื—ื—ื—ื— ื›ืŸ:-D:-D

ื•ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืงืจื‘ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื–ื”, ื ืจืื” ืฉืžื” ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื’ืžืจ ืื•ืชื ื–ื” ื”ืฉื•ื•ืืจืžื” :-D
ื ื™ืกื™ืช ืคืขื ืœื–ื•ื– ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื“ืคืงืช ืœืืคื” ืฉื•ื•ืืจืžื”?:-D
 

ื˜ื•ื ื™ ื”ื—ืชื•ืœ

Well-known member
ืžื ื”ืœ
ื•ืื– ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ ื—ื•ื˜ืฃ ืืช ืช'ื•ืจ ื‘ื—ื–ืจื” ื•ืฉื ื™ ื”ืื™ื“ื™ื•ื˜ื™ื ื ืœื—ืžื™ื ืื—ื“ ื‘ืฉื ื™.
(ื•ืื– ื’ื ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” ืžื’ื™ืข ืœื”ืคืจื™ื“ ื•ืื– 3 ืื™ื“ื™ื•ื˜ื™ื ืขื ืื•ืชื” ืžื˜ืจื” ื ืœื—ืžื™ื ืื—ื“ ื‘ืฉื ื™.)
ื›ืœ ื”ืงื˜ืข ื”ื–ื” ืžื’ื•ื—ืš ื•ื›ื™ืฃ.
ืžื’ื•ื—ืš ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ื›ื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืงืจื‘ ื”ื–ื” ื•ืœื•ืงื™ ืœื ื‘ืจื— (ื›ืœื•ืžืจ ืžื” ืฉืžื’ื•ื—ืš ื–ื” ืฉื”ื ืœื ืชื”ื• ืœืžื” ืœื•ืงื™ ืœื ื‘ืจื—, ืื—ืจ ื›ืš ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืจืฆื” ืœื”ืชืคืก)
- ืชื–ื”ืจื• ืื™ืš ืฉืืชื ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ืœื•ืงื™, ื”ื•ื ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ืื— ืฉืœื™.
- ื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ 80 ืื™ืฉ ื‘ื™ื•ืžื™ื™ื.
- ื”ื•ื ืžืื•ืžืฅ.
ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงืฆืช ืจื™ืืงืฆื™ื” ืฉืœื™ืœื™ืช ืœืงื˜ืข ื”ื–ื” ืžืฆื“ ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืื•ืžืฆื™ื (ืื ื™ ืจืฆื™ื ื™)
ื•ืื ื™ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืžื—ื‘ื‘ืช ืืช ื‘ืื ืจ. ืื•ืœื™ ื“ื•ื•ืงื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงืฆืช ื ื”ื ื™ื™ืช ืžื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ืฉืœ ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื”ืกื™ืคื•ืจื™ื ื”ืžืฉืขืžืžื™ื ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ืฉืœ ื”ืงืคื˜ืŸ ื•ืฉืœ ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ (ืื‘ืœ ืœื ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœื ืกื•ืช.)
ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืืœ ืชื ืกื™. ืฉื ื™ ืกืจื˜ื™ ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ (ื”ืฉื ื™ ื ื—ืฉื‘ ืœื—ืœืง ืžื”MCU, ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืœื) ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื.
ื’'ื•ืก ื•ืžืืจืง ืจืคืœื• ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืงืจื“ื™ื˜ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืขืœ ื›ืš ืฉื”ื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ ืขื ืขื ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง.
ื•ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื” ื™ืฉ ื’ื ืื™ืฉื” ืื—ืช ื‘ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืœื ืคืื˜ืชื™.
*ืื ื™ ืจืง ืืฆื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงื•ืจื” ืœื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืช'ื•ืจ ืคืื˜ืชื™ืช. ื•ื’ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืืช ืœื™ื™ื“ื™ ืกื™ืฃ. ื—ื•ืฅ ืžื–ื” ื’ื ืคื’ื™ ืงืจื˜ืจ ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ื”.
ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืืช ืžืื•ื“ ืžืื•ื“ ืžืื•ื“ ืฆื•ื“ืงืช.
ื•ืชื—ืฉื‘ื™ ืฉืœืงื— 20 ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”MCU ืขื“ ืฉื”ื™ื” ืื—ื“ ืฉื”ืชืžืงื“ ื‘ืื™ืฉื” (ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืžืืจื•ื•ืœ) (ืื ื›ื™ ื’ื ื”ื™ื” ืืช ืื ื˜-ืžืŸ ื•ื”ืฆืจืขื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืขืœ ื’ื‘ืจ ื•ืื™ืฉื”)
ื•ื’ื ื‘ืฉื•ืžืจื™ ื”ื’ืœืงืกื™ื” ื™ืฉ ืงื‘ื•ืฆื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืขื ืจื•ื‘ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืฉืœ ื‘ื ื™ื.
ืื•ืžื ื ื™ืฉ ืขื•ื“ ื ืฉื™ื ื—ื–ืงื•ืช ื‘ื”ืžืฉืš ื‘ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื™ื™ืฆื•ื’ ื”ื•ื ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ ื—ื•ืœืฉื”. ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ืชืงื•ื•ื” ืœืฉื™ืคื•ืจ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ืชืจ ืขื ื”ืกืจื˜ ืฉื™ืชืžืงื“ ื‘ืืœืžื ื” ื”ืฉื—ื•ืจื”.

ื•ืื—ืจื™ ื›ืœ ื”ืงืจื‘ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื–ื”, ื ืจืื” ืฉืžื” ืฉื‘ืืžืช ื’ืžืจ ืื•ืชื ื–ื” ื”ืฉื•ื•ืืจืžื” :-D
ื–ื” ืงื˜ืข ืžืขื•ืœื”.
ืื’ื‘, ื’'ื•ืก ืฆื™ืœื ืืช ื”ืงื˜ืข ื”ื–ื” ื™ื•ื ืœืื—ืจ ืฉืขืฉื• ืืช ื”ืคืจื™ืžืจื” ื”ืจืฉืžื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืกืจื˜, ื›ืžื” ืฉื‘ื•ืขื•ืช ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ืกืจื˜ ื™ืฆื ืจืฉืžื™ืช ืœืืงืจื ื™ื.
ืื– ืื ืฉื™ื ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืœืฆืคื•ืช ืœืžืฉื”ื• ืœืื—ืจ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืื ืฉื™ื ืคื™ืกืคืกื• ืืช ื–ื” (ื’ื ืื ื™).

ืื ื™ ืžืกื›ื™ื ืฉื”ื”ืชื—ืœื” ืฉืœ ื”ืกืจื˜ ืื™ื˜ื™ืช ื•ืœื ืกื•ื—ืคืช. ืฆืจื™ืš ื”ื™ื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื”ืจื‘ื” ื”ืฆื’ืช ื“ืžื•ื™ื•ืช ื•ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืืงืกืคื•ื–ื™ืฆื™ื”.
ื•ื–ื” ืฉื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ืœ ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ืขื‘ื“ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื”ืจืขื™ื ื”ื™ื” ืกืชื ื—ื‘ืœ.
ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืงื˜ืขื™ื ืžืขื•ืœื™ื.
ื›ืžื• ื”ืงื˜ืข ื‘ื’ืจืžื ื™ื” ืขื ืœื•ืงื™ ื•ื”ืื™ืฉ ืฉืขื•ืžื“ ืžื•ืœื•.
ื”ืงืจื‘ ื‘ื™ืŸ ืช'ื•ืจ ื•ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง.
ื—ื™ื“ื•ื“ื™ื ืฉืœ ื˜ื•ื ื™ ืกื˜ืืจืง ืขืœ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื”ืื—ืจื™ื.
ื•ื”ืžื•ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืงื•ืœืกื•ืŸ ;-(
ื•ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ืงืจื‘ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืฉื”ื™ื” ื›ื™ืฃ ืขื ืง.
ื•ืœื•ืงื™ ื‘ืืžืช ืžื“ื”ื™ื ืœืื•ืจื›ื•.

ืื– ืžื” ืืช ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช ืœืจืื•ืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื•?
ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื”ืฉืืœื” ื”ื™ื•ืชืจ ื ื›ื•ื ื” ื”ื™ื - ื”ืื ืืช ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœืจืื•ืช ืขื•ื“ ืกืจื˜ ืžื–ื”?

ื”ื‘ื ื‘ืจืฉื™ืžืช ื”ื ื—ื•ืฆื™ื ืฉืœ ืขื“ื™|ื—ื–ื™ืจ| ื”ื•ื ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” 2
ืื‘ืœ ืืช ื”ืจืืช ืฉืืช ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืจืื•ืช ื™ื•ืชืจ. ื•ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™ ืฉืชืจืื™ ืืช ืช'ื•ืจ 2 ื›ื™ ื™ื—ืกื™ืช ืื”ื‘ืช ืืช ืช'ื•ืจ 1 (ื”ื•ื ืื•ืžื ื ืœื“ืขืชื™ ืคื—ื•ืช ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ืฉื•ื•ื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื›ืžื” ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช)
ืื ื™ ื’ื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืฉื“ื™ืœื’ืช ืขืœ ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ 2, ื•ื‘ืฉื›ืœ (ืื ื›ื™ ืฉื ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืคื•ื’ืฉื™ื ืืช ื”ืืœืžื ื” ื”ืฉื—ื•ืจื”), ืื‘ืœ ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ 3 ืœื“ืขืชื™ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืžื ื•. ืื ื›ื™ ืื ืœื ืื”ื‘ืช ืืช ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ 1 ื–ื” ื›ื ืจืื” ืœื ืื•ืžืจ ื”ืจื‘ื”.
 

didalf

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*ืื ื™ ืจืง ืืฆื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงื•ืจื” ืœื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืช'ื•ืจ ืคืื˜ืชื™ืช. ื•ื’ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืืช ืœื™ื™ื“ื™ ืกื™ืฃ. ื—ื•ืฅ ืžื–ื” ื’ื ืคื’ื™ ืงืจื˜ืจ ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ื”.
ื’ื ืคืคืจ ืœื, ื”ื™ื ื“ื™ ืžื ื”ืœืช ืืช ื˜ื•ื ื™. ื•ื’ื -ืจื•ื‘ื™ืŸ-ืžืื™ืš-ืคื’ืฉืชื™-ืืช-ืืžื-ืฉื›ื—ืชื™-ืืช-ืฉืžื” ืœื. ืื ื™ ืœื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื”ื ืฉื™ื ืคืชื˜ื™ื•ืช. ืœื ืžืงื‘ืœื•ืช ืžืกืคื™ืง ื–ืžืŸ ื•ื™ืฆื•ื’ ื›ืŸ ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืžื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ืŸ ื”ืŸ ืกื‘ื‘ื”.
 

Lhuna3

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ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืงืฆืช ืจื™ืืงืฆื™ื” ืฉืœื™ืœื™ืช ืœืงื˜ืข ื”ื–ื” ืžืฆื“ ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืื•ืžืฆื™ื (ืื ื™ ืจืฆื™ื ื™)
ืื•ื™ืฉ, ื‘ืจืฆื™ื ื•ืช?
ืื•ืฃ, ืื ื™ ื ื•ืจื ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืฆื“ ืฉืžื–ืœื–ืœ ื‘ืจื’ื™ืฉื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ื•ืคื•ื˜ืจ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘"ื—ื•ืกืจ ื—ื•ืฉ ื”ื•ืžื•ืจ", ืื ื™ ืฉื•ื ืืช ืฉืขื•ืฉื™ื ืืช ื–ื”.
ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืžืงืจื” ืฉืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ืžืชืงืฉื” ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ. ื›ื™ ืœื ื ื•ื‘ืข ืžื–ื” ืฉืžืื•ืžืฅ ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืจืข.

ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืืœ ืชื ืกื™. ืฉื ื™ ืกืจื˜ื™ ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ (ื”ืฉื ื™ ื ื—ืฉื‘ ืœื—ืœืง ืžื”MCU, ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืœื) ืœื ื”ื™ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื.
ื’'ื•ืก ื•ืžืืจืง ืจืคืœื• ืงื™ื‘ืœื• ืงืจื“ื™ื˜ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ืขืœ ื›ืš ืฉื”ื ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืžืฉื”ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ ืขื ืขื ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง.
ืœื ื”ื‘ื ืชื™, ืžื” ื–ื” ืฉื ื™ ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ, ื•ืžื”ื• ื”ืกืจื˜(ื™ื) ืฉื›ืŸ ื ื—ืฉื‘ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื?

ืื ื™ ืจืง ืืฆื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืงื•ืจื” ืœื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืช'ื•ืจ ืคืื˜ืชื™ืช.
ืฆื•ื“ืง, ื”ื™ื ื™ื—ืกื™ืช ื‘ืกื“ืจ. (ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืื ื™ ืœื ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืžืจื•ืฆื” ืžืžื ื”.)
ื•ื’ื ื”ื™ื™ืชื” ืฉื ืืช ืœื™ื™ื“ื™ ืกื™ืฃ
ืจื’ืข, ืžื™ ื–ืืช?

ื—ื•ืฅ ืžื–ื” ื’ื ืคื’ื™ ืงืจื˜ืจ ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ื”
ืื ื™ ืœื ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื” - ื–ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ืฉืžื’ืœืžืช ืงื•ื‘ื™ ืกืžื•ืœื“ืจืก ืื• ืžื™ืฉื”ื™ ืื—ืจืช? (ืื ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื ืื– ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื ืœื ืžืกืคื™ืง ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ื”).
ื•ื–ื” ืฉื›ืžืขื˜ ื›ืœ ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ืขื‘ื“ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ื”ืจืขื™ื ื”ื™ื” ืกืชื ื—ื‘ืœ.
ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ื”ื•ื "ื”ื—ืฅ"? ื›ื™ ืœื ืงืจืื• ืœื• ื›ื›ื” ื‘ืžืคื•ืจืฉ ื•ืœื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ ื‘ื›ืœื•ื, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื—ื” ืœืคื™ ืžื” ืฉืจืื™ืชื™ ืคื”?

ื•ื”ืžื•ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืงื•ืœืกื•ืŸ
ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื ืงืฉืจืชื™ ืืœื™ื•, ืกื”"ื› ื‘-3 ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืฉืจืื™ืชื™ ืœืคื ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื•ืคื™ืข ืœืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื›ืžื” ืกืฆื™ื ื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื•ืช ืœืžื“ื™, ื•ื’ื ื‘ื”ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืงืฆืช ืžืขืฆื‘ืŸ (ืœืžืฉืœ ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ืžื—ืจื™ื ืœื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื•ื”ืื—ืจื™ื ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืฆื™ื•ื“ ื•ื”ื—ื•ืžืจ ื—ืงื™ืจื” ืฉืœื”ื).

ืื– ืžื” ืืช ืžืชื›ื•ื•ื ืช ืœืจืื•ืช ืขื›ืฉื™ื•?
ื•ืื•ืœื™ ื”ืฉืืœื” ื”ื™ื•ืชืจ ื ื›ื•ื ื” ื”ื™ื - ื”ืื ืืช ื”ื•ืœื›ืช ืœืจืื•ืช ืขื•ื“ ืกืจื˜ ืžื–ื”?
ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืœืฆืคื•ืช ืžื—ืจ ื‘ืช'ื•ืจ 2, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉืขื“ื™ ื”ื’ื“ื™ืจื” ืื•ืชื• ื’ืจื•ืข ื•ื’ื ืืชื” ืœื ืžืชืœื”ื‘, ืื– ืขื ืฆื™ืคื™ื•ืช ื ืžื•ื›ื•ืช ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช. ื•ืื—"ื› ืืช ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” 2.
ื ืจืื” ืœื™ ืฉืžื“ืœื’ืช ืขืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžืŸ ื›ืจื’ืข. ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื—ื‘ื™ื‘ ื‘ืื™ื ื˜ืจืืงืฆื™ื•ืช ืคื” ืขื ื”ืื—ืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื›ืœืฉืขืฆืžื• ื”ื•ื ืœื ืžืกืคื™ืง ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื™, ื•ื’ื•ื•ื™ื ื™ืช' ืคืืœื˜ืจื• ื”ื™ื ืืžื ื ื”ื™ืคื” ื‘ื ืฉื™ื ื‘ืขื™ื ื™, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ืœื ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ืฉืœื” ืคื” ืžืžื” ืฉืจืื™ืชื™.
 

didalf

Well-known member
ืื•ื™ืฉ, ื‘ืจืฆื™ื ื•ืช?
ืื•ืฃ, ืื ื™ ื ื•ืจื ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืฆื“ ืฉืžื–ืœื–ืœ ื‘ืจื’ื™ืฉื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ื•ืคื•ื˜ืจ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘"ื—ื•ืกืจ ื—ื•ืฉ ื”ื•ืžื•ืจ", ืื ื™ ืฉื•ื ืืช ืฉืขื•ืฉื™ื ืืช ื–ื”.
ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืžืงืจื” ืฉืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ืžืชืงืฉื” ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ. ื›ื™ ืœื ื ื•ื‘ืข ืžื–ื” ืฉืžืื•ืžืฅ ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืจืข.
|ื›ืŸ|

ืœื ื”ื‘ื ืชื™, ืžื” ื–ื” ืฉื ื™ ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ, ื•ืžื”ื• ื”ืกืจื˜(ื™ื) ืฉื›ืŸ ื ื—ืฉื‘ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื?
ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื“ ื‘2003 ื ืจืื” ืœื™ ื“ื™ ื›ื•ืฉืœ ืฉื’ื ืœื ื—ืœืง ืžMCU ืขื ืฉื—ืงืŸ ืื—ืจ.
ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื“ ื‘2008 ืฉื”ื•ื ื˜ื›ื ื™ืช ื›ืŸ ื—ืœืง ืžMCU ืฉืืžืจืชื™ ืœืš ืœื“ืœื’ ืขืœื™ื• ื•ื’ื ืื ื™ ืœื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœื ื‘ืืžืช ืฉื™ื™ืš, ื•ื’ื ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื—ืงืŸ ืื—ืจ. ืžืืจืง ืจื•ืคืืœื• ืฉื™ื—ืง ืืช ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ื”ื—ืœ ืžื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื ื™ืง ื”ืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื›ืืŸ ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืขืฉื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ ืขื ื”ืขื ืง ืœืขื•ืžืช ืฉื ื™ ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื”ืงื•ื“ืžื™ื.

ืจื’ืข, ืžื™ ื–ืืช?
ืœืช'ื•ืจ ื™ืฉ 4 ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืœื•ื—ืžื™ื ืฉืจื•ืื™ื ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, 3 ื’ื‘ืจื™ื ื•ืœื™ื™ื“ื™ ืกื™ืฃ.



ืื ื™ ืœื ื‘ื˜ื•ื—ื” - ื–ืืช ื”ื“ืžื•ืช ืฉืžื’ืœืžืช ืงื•ื‘ื™ ืกืžื•ืœื“ืจืก ืื• ืžื™ืฉื”ื™ ืื—ืจืช? (ืื ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื ืื– ืœืคื—ื•ืช ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื ื”ื™ื ืœื ืžืกืคื™ืง ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ื”).
ืคื’ื™ ืงืจื˜ืจ ื–ืืช ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจื” ืžืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื”


ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ื”ื•ื "ื”ื—ืฅ"? ื›ื™ ืœื ืงืจืื• ืœื• ื›ื›ื” ื‘ืžืคื•ืจืฉ ื•ืœื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ ื‘ื›ืœื•ื, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื—ื” ืœืคื™ ืžื” ืฉืจืื™ืชื™ ืคื”?
ื›ืŸ.
ื‘ืชื—ื™ืœืช ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ืคื™ื•ืจื™ ืฉื•ืืœ "ืื™ืคื” ื”ื”ื•ืง [ื ืฅ]) ื•ืขื•ื ื™ื ืœื• "ื‘ืงืŸ ืฉืœื•" ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืžืฉืงื™ืฃ ืžืœืžืขืœื”.
ื•ืจืื™ื ื• ืื•ืชื• ื’ื ื‘ืช'ื•ืจ 1 ื›ืฉืชื•ืจ ื ืœื—ื ื‘ืžืœื ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ื‘ื•ืฅ ื‘ื—ื•ืฉืš ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ืžืฉืงื™ืฃ ืžืœืžืขืœื” ื•ืžื—ื›ื” ืœืคืงื•ื“ื” ืœื”ืชืขืจื‘.

ื›ืŸ, ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื•ื” ืœืฆืคื•ืช ืžื—ืจ ื‘ืช'ื•ืจ 2, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉืขื“ื™ ื”ื’ื“ื™ืจื” ืื•ืชื• ื’ืจื•ืข ื•ื’ื ืืชื” ืœื ืžืชืœื”ื‘, ืื– ืขื ืฆื™ืคื™ื•ืช ื ืžื•ื›ื•ืช ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช.
ื™ืื™ื™. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื”ื•ื ื ื—ืฉื‘ ื”ื›ื™ ื’ืจื•ืข ื‘MCU ื•ื–ื” ื“ื™ ื ื›ื•ืŸ ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืื•ื”ื‘ืช ืื•ืชื• ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืกืจื˜ื™ื ืฉื ื—ืฉื‘ื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ.
 
ื ืขืจืš ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื” ื‘:

Lhuna3

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ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื“ ื‘2003 ื ืจืื” ืœื™ ื“ื™ ื›ื•ืฉืœ ืฉื’ื ืœื ื—ืœืง ืžMCU ืขื ืฉื—ืงืŸ ืื—ืจ.
ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื“ ื‘2008 ืฉื”ื•ื ื˜ื›ื ื™ืช ื›ืŸ ื—ืœืง ืžMCU ืฉืืžืจืชื™ ืœืš ืœื“ืœื’ ืขืœื™ื• ื•ื’ื ืื ื™ ืœื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœื ื‘ืืžืช ืฉื™ื™ืš, ื•ื’ื ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื—ืงืŸ ืื—ืจ. ืžืืจืง ืจื•ืคืืœื• ืฉื™ื—ืง ืืช ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ื”ื—ืœ ืžื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื ื™ืง ื”ืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื›ืืŸ ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืขืฉื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ ืขื ื”ืขื ืง ืœืขื•ืžืช ืฉื ื™ ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื”ืงื•ื“ืžื™ื.
ืื”ื”, ืื•ืงื™ื™.

ืœืช'ื•ืจ ื™ืฉ 4 ื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืœื•ื—ืžื™ื ืฉืจื•ืื™ื ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ, 3 ื’ื‘ืจื™ื ื•ืœื™ื™ื“ื™ ืกื™ืฃ.
ืื”, ื ื›ื•ืŸ, ื”ื™ื ืกื‘ื‘ื” ื‘ืืžืช.

ืคื’ื™ ืงืจื˜ืจ ื–ืืช ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจื” ืžืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื”
ืื”, ื˜ื•ื‘, ืื– ืื•ืชื” ื’ื ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“. (ื›ื™ ืงืฆืช ื›ืžื• ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื” ืœื›ืื•ืจื” ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืจืฆื™ื ื™, ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืชืคืงื™ื“ื” ื”ืขื™ืงืจื™ ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ื•ื ืœื”ืชืื”ื‘ ื‘ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ, ืœื”ืกืชื›ืœ ืขืœื™ื• ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ื™ื ืžืฆื•ืขืคื•ืช, ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ืœื• ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืื ืฉื”ื• ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ื•ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืœื—ื›ื•ืช ืœืฉื•ื‘ื•...)

ื›ืŸ.
ื‘ืชื—ื™ืœืช ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ืคื™ื•ืจื™ ืฉื•ืืœ "ืื™ืคื” ื”ื”ื•ืง [ื ืฅ]) ื•ืขื•ื ื™ื ืœื• "ื‘ืงืŸ ืฉืœื•" ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ืžืฉืงื™ืฃ ืžืœืžืขืœื”.
ื•ืจืื™ื ื• ืื•ืชื• ื’ื ื‘ืช'ื•ืจ 1 ื›ืฉืชื•ืจ ื ืœื—ื ื‘ืžืœื ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ื‘ื•ืฅ ื‘ื—ื•ืฉืš ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ืžืฉืงื™ืฃ ืžืœืžืขืœื” ื•ืžื—ื›ื” ืœืคืงื•ื“ื” ืœื”ืชืขืจื‘.
|ื›ืŸ| ื•ื•ืืœื”, ืชื•ื“ื” ื•ื’ื ืขืœ ื›ืœ ืฉืืจ ื”ืชืฉื•ื‘ื•ืช!
 

ื˜ื•ื ื™ ื”ื—ืชื•ืœ

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ืžื ื”ืœ
ืื•ื™ืฉ, ื‘ืจืฆื™ื ื•ืช?
ืื•ืฃ, ืื ื™ ื ื•ืจื ืœื ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืฆื“ ืฉืžื–ืœื–ืœ ื‘ืจื’ื™ืฉื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ื•ืคื•ื˜ืจ ืืช ื–ื” ื‘"ื—ื•ืกืจ ื—ื•ืฉ ื”ื•ืžื•ืจ", ืื ื™ ืฉื•ื ืืช ืฉืขื•ืฉื™ื ืืช ื–ื”.
ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืžืงืจื” ืฉืื ื™ ืžืžืฉ ืžืชืงืฉื” ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ. ื›ื™ ืœื ื ื•ื‘ืข ืžื–ื” ืฉืžืื•ืžืฅ ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ืจืข.
ืื ื™ ืžืกื›ื™ื ืฉื™ืฉ ื›ืืŸ ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ืžื•ื’ื–ืžืช, ืื‘ืœ ืืช ื“ื™ ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ ืœื ื”ื‘ื ืช ืืช ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ืœื›ืขืก
ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืคื•ืชืจ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืชื•ืจ ืœื ืื— ืืžื™ืชื™ ืืœื ืื— ืžืื•ืžืฅ. ืื– ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉืื•ืžืฅ ืœืชื•ืš ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื•ืžืจื’ื™ืฉ ืฉื–ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ืืžื™ืชื™ืช ืฉืœื• ื–ื” ื›ืื™ืœื• ืื•ืžืจ, ื›ืŸ ืื‘ืœ ืขื“ ื’ื‘ื•ืœ ืžืกื•ื™ื.
ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ื”ื•ื "ื”ื—ืฅ"? ื›ื™ ืœื ืงืจืื• ืœื• ื›ื›ื” ื‘ืžืคื•ืจืฉ ื•ืœื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ ื‘ื›ืœื•ื, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื—ื” ืœืคื™ ืžื” ืฉืจืื™ืชื™ ืคื”?
ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืืช ืžืชื‘ืœื‘ืœืช ืขื ื”ืกื“ืจื” ื”ื—ืฅ (ืœื ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืจืื™ืช ืื•ืชื”) ืฉื ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ืฉืžื›ื•ื ื” "ื”ื—ืฅ" ื’ื ื™ื•ืจื” ื‘ื—ืฅ ื•ืงืฉืช.
ืื ื™ ืœื ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืฉื ืงืฉืจืชื™ ืืœื™ื• [ืงื•ืœืกื•ืŸ], ืกื”"ื› ื‘-3 ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ืฉืจืื™ืชื™ ืœืคื ื™ ื–ื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื•ืคื™ืข ืœืœื ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื›ืžื” ืกืฆื™ื ื•ืช ืงื˜ื ื•ืช ืœืžื“ื™, ื•ื’ื ื‘ื”ืŸ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืงืฆืช ืžืขืฆื‘ืŸ (ืœืžืฉืœ ื›ืฉื”ื•ื ืžื—ืจื™ื ืœื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื•ื”ืื—ืจื™ื ืืช ื›ืœ ื”ืฆื™ื•ื“ ื•ื”ื—ื•ืžืจ ื—ืงื™ืจื” ืฉืœื”ื).
ื”ื™ื” ืœื• ื’ื ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื™ื—ืกื™ืช ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ-ืžืŸ 2. ื—ื•ืฅ ืžื–ื” ืื ืฉื™ื ืื”ื‘ื• ืื•ืชื• ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื.
ื•ืื’ื‘, ืžืฉื”ื• ืฉื”ื•ื ืกืคื•ื™ืœืจ, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืœืกืจื˜ื™ื - ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืช ื”ื—ื–ื™ืจื• ืื•ืชื• ืœื—ื™ื™ื ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ื›ื•ื›ื‘ ื”ืžืจื›ื–ื™ ืฉืœ ื”ืกื“ืจื” ืกื•ื›ื ื™ ืฉื™ืœ"ื“ ืฉื”ืชื—ื™ืœื” ื‘ืขืงื‘ื•ืช ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื” ื•ื”ื™ื• ืœื” 7 ืขื•ื ื•ืช.
ืคื’ื™ ืงืจื˜ืจ ื–ืืช ื”ื‘ื—ื•ืจื” ืžืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื”
ืื”, ื˜ื•ื‘, ืื– ืื•ืชื” ื’ื ืœื ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“. (ื›ื™ ืงืฆืช ื›ืžื• ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ, ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื” ืœื›ืื•ืจื” ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืจืฆื™ื ื™, ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืชืคืงื™ื“ื” ื”ืขื™ืงืจื™ ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื”ื•ื ืœื”ืชืื”ื‘ ื‘ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ, ืœื”ืกืชื›ืœ ืขืœื™ื• ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ื™ื ืžืฆื•ืขืคื•ืช, ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ืœื• ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืื ืฉื”ื• ืื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื›ื–ื”, ื•ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืœื—ื›ื•ืช ืœืฉื•ื‘ื•...)
ื’ื ืœื” ื™ืฆืื” ืžืื•ื—ืจ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืกื“ืจื” - ื‘ืกื“ืจื” "ื”ืกื•ื›ื ืช ืงืจื˜ืจ", ืคื’ื™ ืขื•ื‘ื“ืช ื‘ืกื•ื›ื ื•ืช ื”ืžืžืฉืœืชื™ืช (ืฉืจืื• ื‘ืกืจื˜ ืงืคื˜ืŸ ืืžืจื™ืงื” 1) ืื—ืจื™ ืžืœื—ืžืช ื”ืขื•ืœื ื”ืฉื ื™ื”. ื•ืžืชืžื•ื“ื“ืช ืขื ืžืจื’ืœื™ื, ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื” ืžื•ื–ืจื”, ืจืขื™ื ืฉื•ื ื™ื ื•ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืกืงืกื™ื–ื (ืฉื ื•ืช ื”40). ื—ื•ืฅ ืžื–ื” ื’ื ื”ืื•ื•ืจื“ ืกื˜ืืจืง ืฉื (ืื‘ื ืฉืœ ื˜ื•ื ื™). (ื•ื’ื ืฆ'ืื“ ืžื™ื™ืงืœ ืžื•ืจื™ื™ ืžืžื’ืจืฉ ื‘ื™ืชื™ ืฉื). ืœืกื“ืจื” ื”ื™ื” ืคื•ื˜ื ืฆื™ืืœ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื•ื˜ืœื” ืื—ืจื™ ืฉืชื™ ืขื•ื ื•ืช.

*ืฉืชื™ ื”ืกื“ืจื•ืช ืžืงื‘ืœื•ืช ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืจืื•ืช ืื•ืชื ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื.

ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื“ ื‘2003 ื ืจืื” ืœื™ ื“ื™ ื›ื•ืฉืœ ืฉื’ื ืœื ื—ืœืง ืžMCU ืขื ืฉื—ืงืŸ ืื—ืจ.
ื”ื™ื” ืื—ื“ ื‘2008 ืฉื”ื•ื ื˜ื›ื ื™ืช ื›ืŸ ื—ืœืง ืžMCU ืฉืืžืจืชื™ ืœืš ืœื“ืœื’ ืขืœื™ื• ื•ื’ื ืื ื™ ืœื ืจืื™ืชื™ ืื‘ืœ ื”ื•ื ืœื ื‘ืืžืช ืฉื™ื™ืš, ื•ื’ื ืฉื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื—ืงืŸ ืื—ืจ. ืžืืจืง ืจื•ืคืืœื• ืฉื™ื—ืง ืืช ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ื”ื—ืœ ืžื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ื”ื–ื”. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืฉื ื™ืง ื”ืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื›ืืŸ ืœืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืขืฉื• ืžืฉื”ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ ืขื ื”ืขื ืง ืœืขื•ืžืช ืฉื ื™ ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื”ืงื•ื“ืžื™ื.
ื–ื” ืื›ืŸ ืžื” ืฉื”ืชื›ื•ื•ื ืชื™.
ืื’ื‘, ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ ืž2003 ื‘ื™ื™ื ืื ื’ ืœื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ืžืื™ ืžืขื•ืœื” (ื‘ืจื•ืงื‘ืง ืžืื•ื ื˜ืŸ, ื ืžืจ ื“ืจืงื•ืŸ, ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ืฉืœ ืคื™ื™). ื•ื™ืฉ ื‘ืกืจื˜ ื‘ืืžืช ืžืฉื”ื• ื™ืคื” ื•ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœื ืžืžืฉ ืขื•ื‘ื“.
ืžื™ ืฉืฉื™ื—ืง ืฉื ืืช ื‘ืจื•ืก ื‘ืื ืจ ื–ื” ืืจื™ืง ื‘ืื ื”.
ื‘2008 ืื“ื•ืืจื“ ื ื•ืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืœืงื— ืืช ื”ืชืคืงื™ื“.
ื•ืกืชื ืœื”ื‘ื”ืจื”:
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ื•ืื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ืื– ืขื•ื“ ืกืฆื ื” ืžืขื•ืœื”:
 

Lhuna3

Well-known member
ืื ื™ ืžืกื›ื™ื ืฉื™ืฉ ื›ืืŸ ืชื’ื•ื‘ื” ืžื•ื’ื–ืžืช, ืื‘ืœ ืืช ื“ื™ ืœื—ืœื•ื˜ื™ืŸ ืœื ื”ื‘ื ืช ืืช ื”ืกื™ื‘ื” ืœื›ืขืก
ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืคื•ืชืจ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืชื•ืจ ืœื ืื— ืืžื™ืชื™ ืืœื ืื— ืžืื•ืžืฅ. ืื– ืœืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืฉืื•ืžืฅ ืœืชื•ืš ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื•ืžืจื’ื™ืฉ ืฉื–ืืช ื”ืžืฉืคื—ื” ื”ืืžื™ืชื™ืช ืฉืœื• ื–ื” ื›ืื™ืœื• ืื•ืžืจ, ื›ืŸ ืื‘ืœ ืขื“ ื’ื‘ื•ืœ ืžืกื•ื™ื.
ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉืื ื™ ืžื‘ื™ื ื” ืฉื›ื›ื” ื”ื ื‘ื—ืจื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืืช ื–ื”.

ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืืช ืžืชื‘ืœื‘ืœืช ืขื ื”ืกื“ืจื” ื”ื—ืฅ (ืœื ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืจืื™ืช ืื•ืชื”) ืฉื ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ืฉืžื›ื•ื ื” "ื”ื—ืฅ" ื’ื ื™ื•ืจื” ื‘ื—ืฅ ื•ืงืฉืช.
ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ืชื‘ืœื‘ืœืชื™ ืื ื™ ืฉืืœืชื™ ื”ืื ื–ื” ื”ื•ื.
ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืžื‘ื•ืœื‘ืœืช, ื›ื™ ืขื“ื™ ืขื ืชื” ืฉื›ืŸ ื•ืืชื” ืื ื”ื‘ื ืชื™ ืคื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ - ืื•ืžืจ ืฉืœื.

ื—ื•ืฅ ืžื–ื” ืื ืฉื™ื ืื”ื‘ื• ืื•ืชื• ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื.
ืื ื™ ืื”ื‘ืชื™ ืื•ืชื• ืงืฆืช ืจืง ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืชืคืงื™ื“ื• ื‘ืกื“ืจื” ื›ืจื™ืกื˜ื™ืŸ ื”ื™ืฉื ื” ื•ืชืคืงื™ื“ ืงื˜ืŸ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื”ืœื‘ืŸ.

ื•ืื ื›ื‘ืจ ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ืื– ืขื•ื“ ืกืฆื ื” ืžืขื•ืœื”:
ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืงื˜ืข ื—ืžื•ื“.
ืื’ื‘, ื–ื” ื”ื–ื›ื™ืจ ืœื™ ืงื˜ืข ื‘ืžืคืฅ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื›ืฉืฉืœื“ื•ืŸ ื‘ืขืจืš "ืžืชื—ืคืฉ" ืœืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง, ื•ื”ื•ื ืื•ืžืจ puny human
ืื– ืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื—ื” ืฉื”-puny ื”ื–ื” ื–ื” ืงืื˜ืฅ' ืคืจื™ื™ื– ืฉืœ ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ืฉื”ื•ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืื•ืžืจ (ืื• ืฉืœื ื•ืื– ืฉืœื“ื•ืŸ ืจื™ืคืจืจ ืฉื ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ืช ืœืกืฆื™ื ื” ื”ื–ืืช).
 

didalf

Well-known member
ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืืช ืžืชื‘ืœื‘ืœืช ืขื ื”ืกื“ืจื” ื”ื—ืฅ (ืœื ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืจืื™ืช ืื•ืชื”) ืฉื ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ืฉืžื›ื•ื ื” "ื”ื—ืฅ" ื’ื ื™ื•ืจื” ื‘ื—ืฅ ื•ืงืฉืช.
ืื ื™ ืœื ื”ืชื‘ืœื‘ืœืชื™ ืื ื™ ืฉืืœืชื™ ื”ืื ื–ื” ื”ื•ื.
ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ื‘ื”ื—ืœื˜ ืžื‘ื•ืœื‘ืœืช, ื›ื™ ืขื“ื™ ืขื ืชื” ืฉื›ืŸ ื•ืืชื” ืื ื”ื‘ื ืชื™ ืคื” ื ื›ื•ืŸ - ืื•ืžืจ ืฉืœื.
ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉืงืจืืช ืœื• "ื”ื—ืฅ" ืกืชื ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื™ื•ืจื” ื—ืฆื™ื:-D
ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ื”ื•ื ืื›ืŸ ื–ื” ืฉื™ื•ืจื” ื—ืฆื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื›ื™ื ื•ื™ ืฉืœื• ื–ื” ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ [ืขื™ืŸ ื”ื ืฅ](ื”ืฉื ืฉืœื• ื–ื” ืงืœื™ื ื˜ ื‘ืจื˜ื•ืŸ)
ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ืขืœ ืขื ื›ื™ื ื•ื™ "ื”ื—ืฅ" ื–ื” ืื›ืŸ ื”ื”ื•ื ืžื”ืกื“ืจื” "ื”ื—ืฅ" ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืฉืœ DC.

ืื’ื‘, ื–ื” ื”ื–ื›ื™ืจ ืœื™ ืงื˜ืข ื‘ืžืคืฅ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื›ืฉืฉืœื“ื•ืŸ ื‘ืขืจืš "ืžืชื—ืคืฉ" ืœืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง, ื•ื”ื•ื ืื•ืžืจ puny human
ืื– ืื ื™ ืžื ื™ื—ื” ืฉื”-puny ื”ื–ื” ื–ื” ืงืื˜ืฅ' ืคืจื™ื™ื– ืฉืœ ื”ืขื ืง ื”ื™ืจื•ืง ืฉื”ื•ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืื•ืžืจ (ืื• ืฉืœื ื•ืื– ืฉืœื“ื•ืŸ ืจื™ืคืจืจ ืฉื ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ืช ืœืกืฆื™ื ื” ื”ื–ืืช).
ื—ื—ื—ื—ื— ืœื ื–ื›ืจืชื™ ืืช ื–ื”:-D
 

Lhuna3

Well-known member
ื—ืฉื‘ืชื™ ืฉืงืจืืช ืœื• "ื”ื—ืฅ" ืกืชื ื›ื™ ื”ื•ื ื™ื•ืจื” ื—ืฆื™ื:-D
ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ื”ื•ื ืื›ืŸ ื–ื” ืฉื™ื•ืจื” ื—ืฆื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื›ื™ื ื•ื™ ืฉืœื• ื–ื” ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ [ืขื™ืŸ ื”ื ืฅ](ื”ืฉื ืฉืœื• ื–ื” ืงืœื™ื ื˜ ื‘ืจื˜ื•ืŸ)
ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ืขืœ ืขื ื›ื™ื ื•ื™ "ื”ื—ืฅ" ื–ื” ืื›ืŸ ื”ื”ื•ื ืžื”ืกื“ืจื” "ื”ื—ืฅ" ืฉื”ื™ื ื‘ื›ืœืœ ืฉืœ DC.
ืื•ืงื™ื™ ืื– ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื•ื. ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืžื‘ืœื‘ืœ ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื ืจืื” ืžื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ื”ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ื”ื–ื” ื–ื” ืœื™ืจื•ืช ื—ื™ืฆื™ื ื‘ืžื“ื•ื™ืง. ืื– ื‘ืขืฆื ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ืฉืœื• ื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืจืื•ืช ืžืžืฉ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœืžืจื—ื•ืง, ืฉื ื•ืชื ืช ืœื• ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ื“ื™ื•ืง ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื”?
(ื•ืžื” ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ืฉืœ ื”ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ ืฉื ืงืจื ื”"ื—ืฅ"?)

ืกื™ื™ืžืชื™ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืืช ืช'ื•ืจ 2
ืกืจื˜ ื ื—ืžื“ ื’ื, ืœื ืจื•ืื” ืžืฉื”ื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื’ืจื•ืข ื‘ื• ืžื”ืกืจื˜ื™ื ื”ืงื•ื“ืžื™ื.
ืœืžืจื•ืช ื”ืจื‘ื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืœื ื”ื›ื™ ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™ื™ื (ื‘ืขื™ืงืจ ืžื’ื•ื—ืš ืœื™ ืฉื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื•ืืจื™ืง ืกืœื•ื•ื™ื’ ื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ืœืคืชื— ืžื›ืฉื™ืจื™ื ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื™ื ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ื›ื›ื” ืœืฉืœื•ื˜ ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ื”ืชื›ื ืกื•ืช ื•ื”ืคืชื—ื™ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื•ืœืžื•ืช, ื•ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ืœื ืฆื— ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ืืช ืžืœืืงื™ืช'...ืœื ืžืฉื ื” ื›ืžื” ื–ืžืŸ ื”ื ื—ืงืจื• ืืช ื–ื” ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™ ืฉื”ื ื”ืฉื™ื’ื• ืืคื™ืœื• ืืช ื”ื™ื“ืข ื”ื“ืจื•ืฉ, ื•ื‘ื˜ื— ืœื ืืช ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ื”ื–ืืช, ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืžืกืกืคื ื“ืช ื›ื™ ื‘ืืžืช ื™ืฉ ื”ืžื•ืŸ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืœื ื”ื’ื™ื•ื ื™ื™ื ื‘ืกื“ืจื”.)

ืื‘ืœ ื™ืฉ ื‘ื• ื“ื•ื•ืงื ืœื ืžืขื˜ ืกืฆื™ื ื•ืช ื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืช.

ืช'ื•ืจ ื‘ื”ืชื—ืœื” ื›ื–ื” ื—ืžื•ื“ ื‘ืงืจื‘ ืžื•ืœ ืื™ืฉ ื”ืื‘ืŸ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ "ืื ื™ ืžืงื‘ืœ ืืช ื›ื ื™ืขืชืš" :-D

ื”ื“ื™ื™ื˜ ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื’ื ื“ื™ ื—ืžื•ื“.
ื•ื”ืžืงื•ื ืฉื”ื ื–ื•ืจืงื™ื ื—ืคืฆื™ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื•ืœืžื•ืช ืžื’ื ื™ื‘.
ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ืœื ืžืกืคื™ืง ื ื“ื”ืžืช ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ืžืœื”ื’ื™ืข ื‘ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืœืขื•ืœื ืื—ืจ (ืขื ื›ืœ ื”ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ืœื–ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ื‘ืจ ื™ื“ืขื” ืฉื™ืฉ ื›ืืœื•, ื–ื” ืœื ืื•ืชื• ื“ื‘ืจ).

[ื•ืื•ื™ืฉ ืื™ืŸ ืœื™ ื›ื•ื— ืœืงื ืื” ืžืขืฆื‘ื ืช ื•ืคืืชื˜ื™ืช ื‘ื™ื ื” ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ืกื™ืฃ, ื‘ื‘ืงืฉื” ืชื ื• ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืœืกื™ืฃ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื“ืžื•ืช ื ืฉื™ืช ื ื•ืจืžืœื™ืช ื‘ืœื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžืื•ื”ื‘ืช ื‘ื’ื™ื‘ื•ืจ.]

ืืจื™ืง ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืžืฉื•ื’ืขื™ื ืžืกื‘ื™ืจ ืœื”ื ืขืœ ื”ื”ืชื›ื ืกื•ืช :-D (ื™ื“ืขืชื™ ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ื‘ืืžืช ืžืจืฆื” ืœื›ื™ืชื”)

ืขื•ื“ ืกืฆื™ื ื” ื™ืคื” ื–ื” ื›ืฉืช'ื•ืจ ืžื’ื™ืข ืœืชื ื”ื›ืœื ืฉืœ ืœื•ืงื™ ื•ืื•ืžืจ ืœื• "ื“ื™ ืขื ื”ืืฉืœื™ื•ืช" ื•ืื– ืœื•ืงื™ ืžืจืื” ืœื• ืืช ื”ืžืฆื‘ื• ื”ืืžื™ืชื™.
ื•ืกืฆื™ื ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ื—ื” ืฉืœื”ื ื’ื ื“ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื”.
ื•ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ืกืฆื™ื ื” ืฉื”ื ืžืฉืชืคื™ื ืคืขื•ืœื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืขืœ ืžืœืืงื™ืช'.
(ืจืง ืฉื•ื‘ ื”ืžืฉื—ืง ืื• ื”ื‘ื™ืžื•ื™ ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืขื™ื™ืชื™ ืœื™ ืงืฆืช. ื”ื™ื ืจื’ื•ืขื” ืžื™ื“ื™ ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœื‘ืช ืื ื•ืฉ ื•ืกื›ื ืช ื”ืžื•ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื ื ืžืฆืืช ื‘ื” ื‘ืžืฉืš ื›ืœ ื”ืกืฆื™ื ื” ื”ื–ืืช ื•ื”ืงืจื‘ ืฉืœื”ื ืฉื ืื™ืชื•.)

ื•ืื—"ื› ื›ืฉื”ื“ื™ื™ื˜ ืžืชืงืฉืจ ืืœื™ื” ื•ื”ื ืžื•ืฆืื™ื ืืช ื”ืคืชื—, ื•ืช'ื•ืจ ืžืชืคืœื "ืœืžื” ื™ืฉ ืคื” ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ื ืขืœื™ื™ื?" ื—ื—ื—

ื•ืกืฆื™ื ืช ื”ืงืจื‘ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื“ื™ ืžื’ื ื™ื‘ื” ืขื ื”ืกืคื™ื ื” ื”ืขื ืงื™ืช ืฉืœ ืžืœืืงื™ืช' ื—ื•ืชื›ืช ืืช ื”ื›ืœ, ื•ื›ืฉืช'ื•ืจ ื•ืžืœืืงื™ืช' ื ื•ืคืœื™ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืขื•ืœืžื•ืช ื•ื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืืœื”.
ืœื ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืœื™ ืจืง ืœืžื” ืฉืืจ ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ืœื ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ื›ื™ ื”ืงืจื‘ ื ืžืฉืš ืœื ืžืขื˜ ื–ืžืŸ ื•ื”ื ื‘ื˜ื— ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืขืœ ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ. ืืžื ื ื–ื” ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ื” ืื‘ืœ ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžื”ืจ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืžืžืฉ ืžื”ืจ, ื•ื’ื ืœืงื—ืช ืื™ืชื• ื˜ืจืžืค ืืช ื”ืื—ืจื™ื.

ื”ืกืฆื™ื ื” ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื” (ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืืœื• ืฉืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช) ื’ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื•ืžืขื ื™ื™ื ืช. ื”ื‘ื ื• ืฉืœื•ืงื™ ืœื ืžืช ื•ื—ื–ืจ ื‘ืชื—ืคื•ืฉืช, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืฉื”ื•ื ืžืชื—ื–ื” ืœืื•ื“ื™ืŸ... ื”ืื ื–ื” ืื•ืžืจ ืฉืื•ื“ื™ืŸ ืžืช? ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ืจื’ ืื•ืชื• ืื• ืžืฉื”ื•? (ืืœ ืชืขื ื• ืœื™!)
ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืขื•ืฉื” ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ืืช ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ื™ืคื™ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืืžืจ ืœืช'ื•ืจ ื‘ืชื•ืจ ืื•ื“ื™ืŸ ืœื›ืื•ืจื”.
 

didalf

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ืื•ืงื™ื™ ืื– ื–ื” ืœื ื”ื•ื. ื–ื” ื‘ืืžืช ืžื‘ืœื‘ืœ ื›ื™ ื–ื” ื ืจืื” ืžื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ื”ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ืช ืฉืœ ื”ื•ืงืื™ื™ ื”ื–ื” ื–ื” ืœื™ืจื•ืช ื—ื™ืฆื™ื ื‘ืžื“ื•ื™ืง. ืื– ื‘ืขืฆื ื”ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ืฉืœื• ื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืœืจืื•ืช ืžืžืฉ ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœืžืจื—ื•ืง, ืฉื ื•ืชื ืช ืœื• ื™ื›ื•ืœืช ื“ื™ื•ืง ื’ื‘ื•ื”ื”?
ืืžืž ืœืื“ืขืช8-* ื”ื•ื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื™ื•ืจื” ื—ื™ืฆื™ื ืžืžืฉ ื˜ื•ื‘. ืื™ืŸ ืœื• ื›ื•ื— ืขืœ ื”ื•ื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืกื•ื›ืŸ ืžืื“ ืžืื•ืžืŸ. ื ืจืื” ืœื™.
ืขื•ื“ ืกืฆื™ื ื” ื™ืคื” ื–ื” ื›ืฉืช'ื•ืจ ืžื’ื™ืข ืœืชื ื”ื›ืœื ืฉืœ ืœื•ืงื™ ื•ืื•ืžืจ ืœื• "ื“ื™ ืขื ื”ืืฉืœื™ื•ืช" ื•ืื– ืœื•ืงื™ ืžืจืื” ืœื• ืืช ื”ืžืฆื‘ื• ื”ืืžื™ืชื™.
ื›ืŸืŸ|ืžืื•ื”ื‘|
ื•ืกืฆื™ื ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ื—ื” ืฉืœื”ื ื’ื ื“ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ื”.
ื•ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ืกืฆื™ื ื” ืฉื”ื ืžืฉืชืคื™ื ืคืขื•ืœื” ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืขืœ ืžืœืืงื™ืช'.
ื›ืŸืŸ ืžืชื” ืขืœ ื”ืกื™ืงื•ื•ื ืก ืฉืœ ื”ื‘ืจื™ื—ื” ื•ืื™ืš ืฉื”ื ืžืฉืชืคื™ื ืคืขื•ืœื”. ืจืง ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื–ื” ื”ืกืจื˜ ื”ื–ื” ืฉื•ื•ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ืžื”ืจื‘ื” ืื—ืจื™ื.
(ืจืง ืฉื•ื‘ ื”ืžืฉื—ืง ืื• ื”ื‘ื™ืžื•ื™ ืฉืœ ื’'ื™ื™ืŸ ื‘ืขื™ื™ืชื™ ืœื™ ืงืฆืช. ื”ื™ื ืจื’ื•ืขื” ืžื™ื“ื™ ื‘ื™ื—ืก ืœื‘ืช ืื ื•ืฉ ื•ืกื›ื ืช ื”ืžื•ื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ื ื ืžืฆืืช ื‘ื” ื‘ืžืฉืš ื›ืœ ื”ืกืฆื™ื ื” ื”ื–ืืช ื•ื”ืงืจื‘ ืฉืœื”ื ืฉื ืื™ืชื•.)
ื”ื™ื ืœื ื—ืฆื™ ืžืชื” ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืกืฆื ื•ืช ื”ืืœื”? ืขื“ ืฉืžื•ืฆื™ืื™ื ืžืžื ื” ืืช ื”ืืช'ืจ?

ืœื ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืœื™ ืจืง ืœืžื” ืฉืืจ ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื ืœื ื”ื’ื™ืขื• ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ื›ื™ ื”ืงืจื‘ ื ืžืฉืš ืœื ืžืขื˜ ื–ืžืŸ ื•ื”ื ื‘ื˜ื— ื™ื›ืœื• ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืขืœ ื–ื” ื›ื‘ืจ. ืืžื ื ื–ื” ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ื” ืื‘ืœ ืœืคื—ื•ืช ืื™ื™ืจื•ืŸ ืžื”ืจ ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืžืžืฉ ืžื”ืจ, ื•ื’ื ืœืงื—ืช ืื™ืชื• ื˜ืจืžืค ืืช ื”ืื—ืจื™ื.
ื—ื—ื—ื— ื›ืŸ ื–ืืช ืฉืืœื” ืฉื ืฉืืœืช ื‘ื›ืœ ืกืจื˜ื™ ื”ืกื•ืœื• ืฉืœ ืื—ืจื™ ื”ื ื•ืงืžื™ื 1.
 
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